Billy Biggs writes: > Brian J. Murrell (v4l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx): > > > > Where do you get it that low? The winTV-PVR cost approx EUR330 here in > > > Germany, and the kfir card is EUR300. > > > > http://www.nextag.com/Hauppauge_Wintv_PVR_USB~3628564z5znzzz1zmainz2-htm > > Ah, the USB one only goes up to half-D1 and 6Mbps. I'd rather buy the > card version, although I like the thought of an external encoder -- less > noise maybe? > > Regardless, hauppauge.com shows the retail price of the PVR card is only > $240 USD, and it can do full D1 at 12Mbps. Which is about 320 Euros including 16% VAT (which is always included in German price quotes). US buyers would probably not have to pay the German VAT, but would get charged by customs. Marcus