Brian J. Murrell (v4l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx): > > Where do you get it that low? The winTV-PVR cost approx EUR330 here in > > Germany, and the kfir card is EUR300. > > http://www.nextag.com/Hauppauge_Wintv_PVR_USB~3628564z5znzzz1zmainz2-htm Ah, the USB one only goes up to half-D1 and 6Mbps. I'd rather buy the card version, although I like the thought of an external encoder -- less noise maybe? Regardless, hauppauge.com shows the retail price of the PVR card is only $240 USD, and it can do full D1 at 12Mbps. -- Billy Biggs vektor@xxxxxxxxxxxx