This really nothing to do with this list, but is related to the subject ... I assume you are interested in skipping commercials on a hard-disk-based DVR, e.g. like TiVo. Suppose there was a web site somewhere that had the info on all TV programs on all channels / networks, including the exact start and stop time of the commercials. The DVR - which would have to be on the 'net - could then access this website to know how to skip the commercials. Who would maintain the database on this website? Obviously, volunteer hacker types who hate commercials. They could go to the website, log in, and click / press keys as commercials start and stop. I don't believe the networks could sue for any sort of copyright infringement, since when commercials start or stop should be considered "news" and therefore in the public domain (but I'm not a lawyer). I believe blocking / force-feeding commercials, rather than copy protection, is the real future battleground. I would guess that more revenue is generated (at least in the US) through advertising than is generated by all forms of Intellectual Property: music, movies and books combined. That advertising revenue is not going to be easily surrendered. We'll soon see the equivalent of anti-DeCSS legal actions against software that blocks commercials. On what grounds? possibly "harming a business" or whatever basis they used to sue Oprah for dissing eating beef - although they did lose that case. Peter K "Marco A. Sousa" wrote: > Thomas Hargrove (ciagon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > Out code right now does a lot more than VCR's can, such as station logo > > detection, audio fingerprinting, and a profile system. > > I dont know about your stations but here in Brazil, the comercial are very > hard to detect because TV stations cut from programs to comercials with a > fade out/fade in and avoid specific logo mark. Some years ago I think it would > be easier, they used a logo and a specific sound. > > There is interesting system: they publish on sunday's newspaper all the shows > with some numbers. If u type this number, the VCR records the show! > Dont now about comercials , though. But maybe the VCR can decode the number > sent in vertical retrace(timestamp?) . > > The URL: > http://www.estadao.com.br/cgi-ptl/divirtase/roteiros/tv.pl > show some thing like(for MTV): > > 13h00 Yo 66338 > 15h30 Real World 51845 > 18h00 Disk MTV 46574 > 0h00 Amp 588181 > > Does these numbers make any sense to u :) ? > Another way is detect logo watermarks. They put it on the corners, with no > particular order. Some put on up/left others on lower right. > Do U know any way to detect watermarks? > > Regards, > Marco > > -- > > We're sure there are people out there that find mountain goats,hand puppets, > > and Un*x System Administration manuals suitable for sexual enhancement, > > but that's not "common". > > From alt.sex.FAQ > > _______________________________________________ > Video4linux-list mailing list > Video4linux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/video4linux-list
