Another datapoint. I'm using a Terratec Cinergy 600. If I load saa7134 (using the options card=11 oss=3), and then run a TV app such as xawtv or tvtime, the sound doesn't come on. However, if I start divx4rec it does manage to unmute the dsp on the TV card. On exit the sound stays un-muted. If I try and change the state using v4ctl I get the following results. [21:32-~-paul@felix-4T44]#v4lctl -c /dev/video1 show mute mute: off [21:34-~-paul@felix-4T45]#v4lctl -c /dev/video1 setattr mute on ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL(id=9963785;value=1): Invalid argument [21:34-~-paul@felix-4T46]#v4lctl -c /dev/video1 setattr mute off ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL(id=9963785;value=0): Invalid argument I'm using the 20031201 snapshot. Paul