Re: NTSC capture card recomendation

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Vidiot (brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx):

> > One annoyance with DV for NTSC is that it's 4:1:1 and converting
> > from 4:1:1 to the 4:2:0 you need for MPEG-1/2 is a pain to do well.
> > Still, that sort of annoyance is best left to those seeking
> > ultra-correctness.
> 
> Not had a problem so far.  Unfortunately at this point it has all been
> done under Windbloze.  But, a friend has been playing with Linux tools
> and as far as I know, hasn't had a problem either.

  At some point, someone has to convert from 4:1:1 to 4:2:0.  Linux
tools currently seem to simply duplicate chroma samples horizontally and
drop vertically, resulting in poorer colour than could be achieved with
a better filter.  Test images to show problems would likely have jagged
blue or red edges.

> >> BTW, before going to VCD and/or DVD, the NTSC setup level needs to
> >> be removed.  So whatever tool you use, make sure that it can remove
> >> NTSC setup, as the MPEG-1/2 standard does not use it and leaving it
> >> in will cause problems.
> >
> > What are you talking about here?  The Y'CbCr specs for MPEG-1/2 are
> > the same as for DV.  Please clarify.
> 
> Please read what I wrote.  I said that the "NTSC setup" needs to be
> removed.  Most consumer, and even pro-sumer, devices will not remove
> NTSC setup when fed an analog signal for conversion to DV.  The setup
> is left intact in the DV data.  My DVCAM decks are like that.  No
> switch to tell it to remove, or add, setup.  It records what you feed
> it.

  Ok I see what you mean.  We discussed this before about how to
properly cut it off.  So, let's say I'm trying to get rid of the setup.
Should I record at like 768x480 and then estimate where the setup ends,
and then resample the active area with 720 samples ?  I can't see how to
do this though without messing up the aspect ratio of the content.

  -Billy




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