According to the matrox site: http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm The g-400 -TV card has only graphics support. There is no linux capture or firewire support for this card AKIK On Mon, 2003-04-28 at 23:53, Jeff Jordan wrote: > Daniel, > > Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions and trying > to help me. As sometimes happens, you've created even more questions and > concerns which I hope you or someone can address. > > 1. You mention that in your opinion, my 800Mhz machine may be marginal > as far as speed is concerned. I know Macs have been using 400 to 600 Mhz > processor speeds and capturing video without problems for years. I have > been using the Matrox system under Windows 98 for years without a single > frame dropped. I'm not arguing with you, but I find it hard to believe > that Linux would not be able to handle raw DV capture without any > problems and with an optinized kernal, be able to handle analog video > capture without problems. Any additional resources that you can point me > to on this subject would be appreciated. I've got fast hard disks, which > was always the bottleneck. I'm spoiled and usually working at 640x480. > > 2. You mention that I would need lots of small parts, without going into > the details of what these parts are. From what you're saying, it sounds > like in order for me to be able to drive someplace, I must go out and > find all the parts in order to build a car to drive it someplace. No one > has a car already made for me to use. I really don't want to have to do > that. I simply want to do video editing on my pc. I hate Windoze and > switched to Linux, thinking that it would be better to do video editing > on, since it's more powerful. kino (dv) cinelerra (dv + analogue) > > 3. You then go on to tell me to try a couple of different programs that > will perform like what I'm used to under Windose. If these programs work > well, then don't I just need a capture card and driver to capture the > video and put it on my hard disk? To me, this sounds like you almost > solved all my problems. yes > > 4. I've been on all the sites that you mention many times, trying to > learn about all of this. What I'm really looking for is someone that > does what I'm trying to do and to tell me exactly how they did it and > what they use. I don't think I'm interested the the MJPEGTOOLS because I > will be handling everything in DV, no MPEG whatsoever. mjpegtools and avifile is required for kino/dvgrab made easy here: http://kino.schirmacher.de/redhat/8.0/en/i386/RPMS.kinorpms/ > But, I'm not the > expert and I'm open for why I might need these tools. Reading the > MJPEGTOOLS site, it says that it uses xawtv for the capture of video. On > the xawtv site, it says that it's used for watching tv. Xawtv is a viewing and capture program > What program do > I need to capture raw DV at 25mbps? What program do I need to capture > analog video to disk? I sure as heck can't seem to figure it out. Where > does it tell you this kind of stuff? kino > > 5. I have read the entire Mandrake site carefully and I don't see what > that has to offer over my Redhat7.3. I've spent 4 months installing > programs and getting my system just the way I want it. I can update my > kernel to that version if that is what will make the difference. I can > also recompile my kernel with whatever I need in it to make it work. I > understand the importance of being able to update the kernel, and not > too concerned about doing it. I 'seem' to have almost everything that > Mandrake 9.1 offers already on my system. Is there specifics that make > Mandrake 9.1 better suited to what I'm trying to do? And if it's kernel > related, can't I simply update? Then recompile your kernel with the relevant SVN (2.4) from linux1394 as anything below 2.4.18 is obsolete, and problematic. Be sure to recompile with the code maturity option yes. (2nd selection in xconfig) I'm sort of an OS junkie and like to optimise for Multimedia, realtime apps. Mandrake instalation and hardware detection is trully flawless. Red Had has for liscensing and legal reasons excluded any support for mpeg, mp3, dvd support as of rh8.0. Also for multimedia applications on Red Hat dma is by default off. (drive optimization) to turn it on hdparm -d1 /dev/hda I think your going to be frustrated by tuning rh 7.3 to your needs. Things have come a long way in a short time. > > 6. Do you do DV and analog video capture and editing on your system? If > you do, I would sure love it if you could tell me what products you are > using. You did mention that you are using Avermedia capture cards. Do > you use more than one? Also, which model do you use. There seems to be a > bunch. And what driver(s) are you using. etc. etc. Specifics Please! I > beg you. Hardware: 1.8 g celeron, 512mb VectorLinx (slackware made easy) 2 AverMedia TVphone capture cards (cheap 40.00 usd) The chpsets on these are BT878 and work. Heres a good hardware list: http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ 1 Nvidia GForce4 128mb ram tv out AGP (cheap 50.00 usd) 1 ohci pci 3port firewire card (cheapest still 29.00 usd) Packages required for firewire support (see linux1394 faq) Libraw1394 libavc1394 dc1394 gscanbus (gui to verify 1394 subsystem) You may find these tutorials helpfull for getting started.. http://www.robfisher.net/video/ http://www.robfisher.net/video/kino.html For NLE and Capture I use Cinelerra, with 2 renderfarm nodes. I dont do that much dv but dvcapture works great. I capture and edit in 16bit yuva .mov and use mjpegtools to encode the edited product to mpeg vcd 1 or 2 format. I use the CVS version of Linux Video Studio as a graphical front end for encoding. You may want to look at that as well. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mjpeg/studio/ For 3d graphics and animation I use Blender http://www.blender.org 7. Maybe I didn't quite explain it clearly, but I was asking about using > my existing Matrox hardware, which also includes a DV and analog capture > card tied into the G400 video card. I know the video display works great > since I'm using it right now. I don't know how to make the other Matrox > hardware work as it's meant to. Alas see top of message. > > Daniel, again, thanks for your past help and (hopefully) future help. > There are no problems, only solutions. regards, Daniel Jircik http://home.swbell.net/pannomat
