Daniel,
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions and trying
to help me. As sometimes happens, you've created even more questions and
concerns which I hope you or someone can address.
1. You mention that in your opinion, my 800Mhz machine may be marginal
as far as speed is concerned. I know Macs have been using 400 to 600 Mhz
processor speeds and capturing video without problems for years. I have
been using the Matrox system under Windows 98 for years without a single
frame dropped. I'm not arguing with you, but I find it hard to believe
that Linux would not be able to handle raw DV capture without any
problems and with an optinized kernal, be able to handle analog video
capture without problems. Any additional resources that you can point me
to on this subject would be appreciated. I've got fast hard disks, which
was always the bottleneck.
2. You mention that I would need lots of small parts, without going into
the details of what these parts are. From what you're saying, it sounds
like in order for me to be able to drive someplace, I must go out and
find all the parts in order to build a car to drive it someplace. No one
has a car already made for me to use. I really don't want to have to do
that. I simply want to do video editing on my pc. I hate Windoze and
switched to Linux, thinking that it would be better to do video editing
on, since it's more powerful.
3. You then go on to tell me to try a couple of different programs that
will perform like what I'm used to under Windose. If these programs work
well, then don't I just need a capture card and driver to capture the
video and put it on my hard disk? To me, this sounds like you almost
solved all my problems.
4. I've been on all the sites that you mention many times, trying to
learn about all of this. What I'm really looking for is someone that
does what I'm trying to do and to tell me exactly how they did it and
what they use. I don't think I'm interested the the MJPEGTOOLS because I
will be handling everything in DV, no MPEG whatsoever. But, I'm not the
expert and I'm open for why I might need these tools. Reading the
MJPEGTOOLS site, it says that it uses xawtv for the capture of video. On
the xawtv site, it says that it's used for watching tv. What program do
I need to capture raw DV at 25mbps? What program do I need to capture
analog video to disk? I sure as heck can't seem to figure it out. Where
does it tell you this kind of stuff?
5. I have read the entire Mandrake site carefully and I don't see what
that has to offer over my Redhat7.3. I've spent 4 months installing
programs and getting my system just the way I want it. I can update my
kernel to that version if that is what will make the difference. I can
also recompile my kernel with whatever I need in it to make it work. I
understand the importance of being able to update the kernel, and not
too concerned about doing it. I 'seem' to have almost everything that
Mandrake 9.1 offers already on my system. Is there specifics that make
Mandrake 9.1 better suited to what I'm trying to do? And if it's kernel
related, can't I simply update?
6. Do you do DV and analog video capture and editing on your system? If
you do, I would sure love it if you could tell me what products you are
using. You did mention that you are using Avermedia capture cards. Do
you use more than one? Also, which model do you use. There seems to be a
bunch. And what driver(s) are you using. etc. etc. Specifics Please! I
beg you.
7. Maybe I didn't quite explain it clearly, but I was asking about using
my existing Matrox hardware, which also includes a DV and analog capture
card tied into the G400 video card. I know the video display works great
since I'm using it right now. I don't know how to make the other Matrox
hardware work as it's meant to.
Daniel, again, thanks for your past help and (hopefully) future help.
Jeff Jordan
Daniel Jircik wrote:
On Mon, 2003-04-28 at 18:16, Jeff Jordan wrote:
I've used several video editing packages for windows such as the Matrox
2000-2500 series. You get a digital/analog capture card along with there
transitions and effects, and Adobe Premiere for putting it all together.
I've found that multimedia and NLE in Linux is a matter of patience, but
worth the learning curve.
Since switching cold turkey to Linux in January, I still can't figure
out what I need to accomplish the same thing.
You will be probaly initially frustrated by the lack of integration of
the whole. And you will find that you need lots of small parts to make
the big picture. Again patience
Could anyone please tell me in simple terms what I would need to
accomplish the same things that I'm used to under Windows with these
other editing packages?
For a non linear editor with many of the features you are accustomed to
in premiere check out Cinelerra:
http://www.heroinewarrior.com/index.php3
The main utility used by a vast majority of Linux multimedia apps is
MJPEGTOOLS This package has a lot of dependencies that must be
satisfied and I've found that the nice folks at KINO (a dv editor) have
put a page together that has everything you need. The MJPEGTOOLS
homepage is here:
http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/
A good place to find all you need for the above:
http://kino.schirmacher.de/redhat/8.0/en/i386/RPMS.kinorpms/
This is a nice small dv editor called KINO:
http://kino.schirmacher.de/
For firewire support :
http://www.linux1394.org/
One you get it all together theres some fun eye candy and a terrific way
to waste a whole lot of time here:
http://effectv.sourceforge.net/
If you want more eye candy and feel up to a learning curve check out:
http://veejay.sourceforge.net/
A really good mpeg4 solution is here:
http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/
Can I use my Matrox g400 and daughter board from the Matrox product?
Matrox has problems with OpenGL but you should be ok. The boards of
choice for display driver in Linx IMHO are Nvidia. They are very well
supported driver wise.
What boards can I use (Brand name, not chip set-very confusing) to
caputre digital and analog?
I'm using capture cards from AverMedia, they are cheap and work great. (TVphone)
What editing software is available besides Broadcast 2000, and
Cinelarra? Neither of which I seem to be able to get installed on my
system.
Have you posted your problems on the heroinewarrior site? Probabbly your
having problems with Libpng.so.2 as RH 7.3 uses 3? The two can co-exist.
Try the earlier release (hvirtual which has everything, xmovie,
cinelerra, mix2000) and install the libraries that are mentioned on the
download page. I've never had a problem with it. Install it with
rpm -i --force --nodeps hvirtual.blah.blah.rpm
I'm running a True Pentium cpu at 800Mhz, RedHat7.3, 512MB RAM, 2 320GB
drives with a removble 120 GB drive for projects, VIA chip set. Abit AH6
MB and the aformentioned Matrox graphic card with daughter capture board.
Borderline slow for capturing.
I'm very confused as everything tralks about bt787 or something chipset
and recompiling the kernal for DV etc.
I would recomend switching to Mandrake 9.1 for your learning curve. You don't
need to recompile your kernel for dv and mjpegtools is included.
I just want to use my system for video editing, not have to pull the
engine, tear it down, and blueprint and balance it.
Mandrake 9.1 is the way to go.
Is this possible in Linux, or do I have to have a Master's degree in
computer science to accomplish this in Linux?
It's a frustrating learning curve but worth it.
As you can probably tell, I'm just a little frustrated. I've been trying
to figure this out for a few months now and I still can't seem to find
an answer.
patience. and remember google is your friend.
Thanks for any replies.
Jeff
Regards
Daniel Jircik
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