mark wrote:
I have written to ATI on a number of occasions, but are not interested in
taking
an active role in helping with the drivers for there products. They have
stepped back and now will allow certain people access to details about
their
cards and chipsets, but thats about the extent of it. Currently there is NO
V4L support for ATI cards. There is only XVideo support for non "Theatre"
chip sets.
There appears to only be good support for bttv chipsets for video capture.
Quoted from the Gatos Site.
All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500DV (Radeon200)
Should work fine with 4.2.0 drivers. XvImage (YUV->RGB overlay and
scaling) should work fine. TV-in works in NTSC. It is expected that PAL
and SECAM will be easy to made working once there are people willing to
test TV-in with these formats. Video capture should work. 3d
acceleration is not implemented as of this writing. Firewire port looks
to be linux compatible but is untested at the moment (I do not have any
firewire devices - if you find this working please let me know.)
Wireless (RF) remote control should work.
Hmm, sounds like they have the capture working.....
I have read this many times.
Notice it says "Should work".
Also notice, else where on the page that you need to install ALSA and
FFMPEG. Although
ALSA is part of Suse, they do not supply any RPM packages, and there is
insufficient docs
to let me know which of the three ALSA packages are to be installed, and
in what order.
These are for the AvView program that supposedly has the support. Maybe
if I installed
Suse it would be easier to get the card working since it is probably the
only distribution that
supports ALSA. Problem with that is, I have tried different versions of
suse but could not
stand it. Suse config file had the comments in German, and the
setup/config program was
poor {somewhat like what is left in redhat 7.3 but maybe worse.}
If you don't have the card and are talking with speculation and the so
called claims that the
the card "should work", then maybe you should follow up on the documents
you mention.
Quote form the TungstenGraphics site:
"The DRI Radeon driver work was initiated by VA Linux. That work
resulted in a rasterization
only driver that works with Mesa 3. Keith Whitwell, the key architect
responsible for Transform,
Clipping and Lighting (TCL) development under Mesa 4, has been closely
involved with the
Radeon driver project since it's inception. He has recently contributed
hardware accelerated TCL
enhancements to the original Radeon driver. That work was not funded by
any outside source,
but TG donated Keith's time because it is important to have a fully open
source TCL DRI driver
available as a reference for the future development of additional TCL
DRI drivers. TG is
currently seeking clients who are interested in funding follow on work
with the R200 or other
upcoming ATI products.
An alpha quality version of the Radeon TCL driver is available in source
<http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/dri/xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/radeon/?sortby=rev&only_with_tag=tcl-0-0-branch>
and binary <ftp://ftp.tungstengraphics.com/dri/> form for
functional testing.
UPDATE (June 7, 2002): The Weather Channel is funding Tungsten Graphics
Inc. to develop
an open source 3D DRI driver for the ATI Radeon 8500 graphics card. The
driver will be
released to the XFree86 Project around Q4 of 2002, to be distributed to
the public in future
versions of the XFree86 X Server."
Note: The driver will not be part of XFree86 until around Q4 2002, and
it is not for the DV
card, which they are now seeking funding for. The DRI driver is for 3D
not capture. I don't
play 3D games and do not really care about 3D support. But I would like
to edit video under
linux, because I don't want to use the WinXP that I leave on my machine
for doing the
editing and for waranty reasons for my machine.
The ATI AIW 8500 DV uses the "R200" video chipset and some version of
the "Theatre"
capture chipset. The Firewire {IEEE 1394} chipset is from Lucent {if I
remember correctly.
I don't really care about the firewire right now, but G200 video and
Theatre still and motion
capture is required.
I am glad the GATOS project exists, but I wish that they supported
v4l(2) rather than XVideo
and standard audio drivers, such as the sound servers for Gnome, KDE,OSS
or "libao".
What ever, the GATOS project requires kernel patches, so you have to
mess around with the
kernel patches to get anything to work.
I will try to spend some time this weekend, I may even get the lastest
version of Suse, update
all the packages then see if I have better success.
Guy
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