Re: AIW on RH7.x

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Kuniyoshi Murata wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Does ATI's All-In-Wonder RADEON 8500 DV work as video capture device on
>RedHat 7.x using GATOS or something else?
>
Not even half a chance.

I bought one, and it really torments me. I have gone through all the cruft
on any and all lists and hunted with search engines. According to the
documentation, Redhat 7.3 supports ATI Radeon 8500. The chipset on the
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 8500 DV appears not to be supported yet. I was
finaly able to get one of my ethernet cards function with the card
installed
and the IEEE 1394 was finaly detected, after I disabled the USB in my
system.
The main problem was that X would not run once I got the firewaire and
ethernet working.

Maybe somebody else has had some luck but I have not had much. I have had
the card work on X but then I could not get either ethernet to work. The
drivers would load but the cards could not be detected.

In Windows XP everything works fine, but I don't like to run windows.

I have a ATI All-In-Wonder Rage 128 PCI 16 MB that works well, so I have
put
the Radeon card back in the box for now.

I currently use XATITV from the GATOS project. It runs smoothly and can do
still captures. The tuner works and so does the svideo. I tried XaweTV
but it
would not capture and the svideo would only display in black and white.

I am subscribed to XFree86 and V4L lists for the past 6 monthes and I
have sent many messages with out a single response.

I would not bother buying a video card whose manufaturer {ATI} will not
help
the open source community to develop drivers for their products. NVidia
writes
there own drivers and provides them as binaries. There are other
manufatures
that take an active part in the development of the drivers for their
products.

I have written to ATI on a nuber of occasions, but are not interested in
taking
an active role in helping with the drivers for there products. They have
stepped back and now will allow certain people access to details about
their
cards and chipsets, but thats about the extent of it. Currently there is NO
V4L support for ATI cards. There is only XVideo support for non "Theatre"
chip sets.

There appears to only be good support for bttv chipsets for video capture.

The Matrox G400 and a couple of nVidia cards have good 3D and 2D
accelerated
support, but most other video cards pretty much only have marginal
accelerated
support if any.

I don't know but, unless the manufacturer specificaly specifies
accellerated
support is available, and / or there card is supported by V4L and they are
willing to prive drivers. I would stay away from cards that don't have tier
one support by Redhat, and excelent reviews in the linux community for all
the features of the card.

I am still waiting, watching and doing some searching once in a while
looking
for real support for the card. I can not return the card, so I am still
hopeing
that sooner than later I will be able to use it.

Guy








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