Ben Bridgwater wrote: > "Clifton T. Sharp Jr." wrote: > > Ben Bridgwater wrote: > > > "Clifton T. Sharp Jr." wrote: > > > > Ben Bridgwater wrote: > > > > > Today I still can't access 3dfx's domain from work, but also not > > > > > nvidia.com and macromedia.com.. what the latter two have in common is > > > > > that traceroute indicates my route to them is thru above.net which per a > > For you to imply that your inability to get through is a deliberate act on > > Abovenet's part without any facts to back that assertion up is disingenuous > > at best. > > Well, if you weren't so heavy handed about cutting people off from > chunks of the net then you wouldn't be setting yourself up for > suspicion. 1. I am not associated in any way (other than as a user) with MAPS or RBL. 2. RBL is about the least heavy-handed anti-spam blocking list in existence. Except for a couple of short-lived hiccups some months ago, one has to try *very* hard to get listed. I have nominated several extreme spammers, and not one was listed, because a three-year history of nothing but heavy spamming was *not enough evidence*. > Consider this from my point of view: > > - I read on /. about above.net blocking macromedia.com, but supposedly > unblocking them > > - I can't access nvidia.com, do a traceroute and there's above.net > > - I remember the story, check macromedia.com and bingo - above.net and > no access > > - I come come and check from here, and minus above.net I can get to > macromedia > > - I check nvidia from home, and same as Eric: > [snip for brevity] > > Guess who's the prime suspect? So despite the fact that you've run into other routing problems before with other sites (I assume you've had a 'net connection longer than a day or two), you connect the coincidences without investigating and ASSUME that Abovenet is blocking. If you've been on the 'net for more than a month, you should know better than to ASSUME things. Someone will invariably jump all over your assumptions. <http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup> gives a way to check whether an IP address is listed in the RBL. If it's not in RBL, Abovenet is very, very unlikely to be blocking it (I'd say impossible, but I don't work there). Better to check first next time. -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Cliff Sharp | "Speech isn't free when it comes postage-due." | | WA9PDM | -- Jim Nitchals, founder, FREE | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- http://www.spamfree.org/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+