Re: mobile robot eyes

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On Wednesday 10 October 2001 22:30, you wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 October 2001 21:52, you wrote:
> > Quoting Eric Pichon <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > Each board will have its own camera, either USB or FireWire.
> > >
> > > We want to achieve 320x200 at 30 fps and need to use the v4l API.
> > >
> > > I would like to know :
> > > - can we use FireWire cams with v4l ?
> >
> > As long as you have the FireWire driver for your camera...
> >
> > > - would a USB cam be able to do 320x200x30 ? (because of the USB 12Mb/s
> > > we would need hardware compression, but will the compression algorithm
> > > behave OK if the camera is always moving - as on a 25 mph RC car ?)
> >
> > USB cam is most likely to be too slow. Existing compression
> > algorithms (implemented in camera's hardware) are too primitive
> > for good motion tracking - I doubt even if MPEG would be good
> > enough for that!
> >
> > Even worse: most compression algorithms are trade secrets, and Linux
> > drivers don't implement them - except Philips driver, which contains
> > a closed-source optional decompressor.
> >
> > A raw, uncompressed datastream won't give you 30 FPS. If you want you
> > can run two cameras in parallel; but they don't have any means of
> > synchronization, unfortunately. Otherwise you could run them in
> > counterphase.
> >
> > > If you have any comment - specially about the choice of the cameras
> > > (should be small, resist to shocks and vibrations and as cheap as
> > > possible) I'm very interested too !
> >
> > You might need to develop your own camera - which is NOT connected
> > through USB. bt8xx chips are easy to find, and analog front ends
> > are also available for $50 or so (the lens, the sensor and some analog
> > outputs). So depending on what you want you can make a PCI camera.
> >
> > If you have a FireWire camera it might work for you. But I haven't
> > seen any.
>
> Here is a FireWire-based desktop video camera
> http://www.orangemicro.com/ibot.html

Sorry, wrong link...
http://www.unibrain.com/products/ieee-1394/fire-i_camera2.htm
this is a much better camera, and the linux1394 pages says it works great.

> but I have no clue if there's any way to make it work with v4l
>
> Maybe these links will help too
> http://linux1394.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.schirmacher.de/arne/dvgrab/index_e.html
>
> > Dmitri
>
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