how to activate v4l? Im an idiot??

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im running RH8 with all the v4l stuff installed and when i try to use xawtv or avview it tells me that /dev/video /dev/video0 /dev/video1, etc... do not exist. the actual files are there however they are not linked to anything in the /dev/ folder (this tells me that the v4l modules are not loaded because they have not been needed yet???)

if i try to manually insmod the modules (bttv, etc..) i get the same errors as when I try to run xawtv and the insmod fails

soooo how the heck to I get it to work so i can watch tv and do video capture in linux?

here is my setup:

1.2ghz athlon
RH8.0
NVIDIA Geoforce3 (primary card/monitor)
ATI Rage 128 all in wonder (secondary card/monitor)
xinerama is enabled


I know the card(s) are ok because in XP i can watch tv/video capture with the ATI card...
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