I ask them to buy the card only. That was not possible. I could buy it bundled with windows software to a price that was much higher as some standard TV cards (sorry can not remember the price), and the plain card (hardeware only) was not available. So the card is not really an option for linux users. (Why buying a software that I will never use?). Now I am using 2 Haupauge cards ;-( Matthias