Billy Biggs wrote: > > You then give a lecture: Your replies did not reveal an advanced level of knowledge, or if we're talking about the same things at all. I just tried to be precise. > If you give me an interlaced frame, and it's a complete frame (or one > cropped to scanlines mod 2), 'top field first' tells me temporal order > and is sufficient. However, if you give me a sequential mode frame, I'd > like to know two things. Whether the first field in the buffer is a top > field or a bottom field, and then, which was captured first, top or > bottom. That's it. Sorry, I'm unable to express that any better than I did. Submit your own field spec if you must. > My point for having a flag is so that I can have some code > independent of PAL or NTSC, and help driver writers whos cards don't > give them the benefit of whether we're in F1 or F2. See the VirtualDub > deinterlacing plugins that try to detect whether the frames received are > top or bottom field first... Let's avoid that... You're barking up the wrong tree. I proposed two flags clarifying the field order. I'm well aware of the advantages and disadvantages. So is Gerd. He wanted a simpler fixed order. As maintainer he has the right of a final decision. I have no time to waste arguing about matters of taste and carry his ideas as much as he respects mine. > > much thought behind the api you just won't find there. See old spec at > > http://www.thedirks.org/v4l2/v4l2.htm > > I've read it. I still find that people are confused. I'll probably > write something and contribute it somewhere anyway. Over the past years v4l2 did not receive the attention by skilled people it deserves. I'll be glad when you do. However I can and will not work with someone more interested to demonstrate his flaming talents than in constructive discussion, no matter what the cause. Michael