I'm able to run saa7134-0.1.10 with bttv-0.8.44, but I think the video-buf in bttv-0.8.45 is incompatible with saa7134-0.1.10 - I get a segfault if I try to run bttv with saa's video-buf, and a "cannot grab device" if I try to run saa with bttv's video-buf. Bug? Merge in next version of saa7134? -- Bill Eldridge Radio Free Asia bill@xxxxxxx