Hi I tried to build the stuff from the rawhide area and found so many dependancies would conflict with the packages form Enigma (7.2). I then boldly attempted to start from the xc tapes... eeaaahh-ouch. Not knowing that the servers were not built I installed and KaPOW! No more working X windows. After reinstalling and updating my system again. I decided to get on a couple of lists. My want for 4.2 stems from my purchase of an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 8500DV AGP. Yah I know..., but the card was just what I was looking for. Here is the reason I am using this list and not the XFree86 list : After installing the card then booting up, kudzo naturally detected that my old card was no longer installed, so I agreed to remove it's configuration but the new card was not detected. OK, the card is too new, and is not listed in "/usr/share/kudzu/pcitable". When I had the broken X from the xc sources installed the card was detected with the radion B200 chipset [1002 4243] in "/etc/sysconfig/hwconf" if I remeber correctly. The ieee1394 port was detected as well. Now the problem, my onboard Intel Ethernet [8086 2449] and PCI RTL-8139 card [10ec 8139] both had unknow descriptions and would not work even though the drivers appeared to be installed when I did an "lsmod". The original AGP card and all othere components worked fine before I installed the new card and again were fine after I replace original card. Does anyone have any pointers for me? Can I just edit the pcitable so that the card is detected properly? Apparently Mandrake already has Support for 4.2 and claim support for my new card. I don't care for mandrake but would like to see XFree86 updated to v4.2. Does kudzo need to be updated as well? Any help would be appreciated. Guy