RE: Interlace Noise (field swapping?) on Pinnacle PCTV

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Hi Billy,

Thanks for the tips.  I'm still not having much luck though. :(

I'll take some more stabs at this with ffmpeg, but it's not really
producing video that's any better.  These 'comb lines' are showing up
even with a mostly static picture.  I'm starting to wonder if there's
something wrong with the PCTV card, or the options I'm passing the
driver...

Regards,
Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: video4linux-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:video4linux-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:24 AM
To: video4linux-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  Interlace Noise (field swapping?) on Pinnacle PCTV


video@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (video@xxxxxxxxxxxxx):

> When I capture, however, I always get what appears to be a comb 
> effect, or feathering.  It's quite pronounced, and is wreaking havok 
> with the compression algorithm.

  An interlaced video frame contains two 'fields', each of half height,
and each from a different point in time.  You have a few options for
what to do about it:

  1) Compress with a codec that can handle interlaced frames.  MPEG2 is
an example, and the interlaced coding mode is supported by mpeg2enc in
the mjpegtools CVS.  But mpeg2enc can't record, so you'll need some
mostly-lossless encoder to first get stuff onto your drive. [1]  You'll
also need a player which can 'deinterlace' when you play back the video
on a progressive display.  This will give you the best quality.

  2) Only compress every second field.  You give up vertical resolution
and framerate, but it makes things easier.  All you do is record at
720x240 or 352x240 and you get 29.97fps instead of the full 59.94fps.
Huge loss of quality, but lots of people think this is reasonable. :(

  3) Find a recorder/compressor that can deinterlace.  Some recorders
can do this, however, look out for recorders that deinterlace simply by
dropping one of the two fields and interpolating the first one, since
you're not better than just recording at 720x240.  However, most
deinterlacing recorders won't deinterlace to 59.94fps, so you're still
losing framerate, but you might save some resolution.  An example is
'ffmpeg', which has an 'ok' filter that will take data from both fields,
but won't give you full framerate: 720x480x29.97fps only.

  Good luck!

  [1]  I wrote a lossless video codec for realtime capturing, the code
is here: http://www.dumbterm.net/graphics/compression/    This codec is
used by my v4l recorder app http://www.sf.net/projects/reetpvr/ but it's
not finished yet.  I was able to use it to create interlaced MPEG2
streams using mpeg2enc though, but I haven't worked on the app lately
since school is keeping me busy.

-- 
Billy Biggs
vektor@xxxxxxxxxxxx



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