for that matter, my bttv card has besides stanard S-VIDEO input, it also got "CVBS" "Philips Camera Input" which is to connect "composite video Philips analog camera. does anyone know more about those? i dont' recally need any full blown recorder with ability to record in maginetic tape (what after all an 'handycam' is -- ignore my question in last email). so would those cameras utilitizing CVBS offer better quality than those over USB while being at similar price? -- Adam http://www.eax.com The Supreme Headquarters of the 32 bit registers