Re: V4L and astroimaging?

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Mike Westkamper wrote:
> 
> You may be well aware of these issues, however I'll mention them just in
> case...
> 
> The CCD imaging of astromical objects adds some interesting problems to
> imaging in general...
> 
> Stability - You will need to grab many fields and integrate them to produce
> a good image. In that time the imager must be tracking the object and be
> very steady. That includes electronically. You need a good low-noise
> converter and a pretty good camera. And good cabling soas to keep noise as
> low as possible.

There are some folks doing some real interesting work with USB cameras
using Windows code.  I don't have a Windows box anymore... anywhere...
so I've got to look elsewhere.

Long exposures appear right out unless I start revamping code, so
multi-image integration is it.  

Tracking (mechanically) is achieved by using a 4.5-inch Newtonian
reflector with computer controlled motor drive.  If I have to dedicate a
2nd camera to off-axis guiding, I guess I will.
 
> Spatial accuracy - You will need to use a pretty good lens too and to
> compensate between fields in the frame. While in astro the trig says the
> difference in array rows has only a small effect the interlace in most
> cameras must be handled properly.

Placing the CCD array at the prime focus is an acceptable alternative. 
If that fails, I'll sacrifice a lens to the imaging gods.

What I may have to do is acquire the 3 interlaced images and use
something to reassemble them.  Or, come up with a mechanism to take them
to three-field FITS data.
 
> Color - Here the rendition is only important if you are interested in color.
> If you are you should know the color curves for the camera and that of your
> final output device. This is a complex subject by itself.

While I intend to do untouched color acquisition initially, as I get
more serious with this, I expect I'll use a filter wheel and acquire in
monochrome, then integrate the filter-wheel images.

It will be interesting to characterize the color curves for the cameras
I have to play with -- all cheap USB devices, to start.
 
> Do not compress your images anywhere along the path. In astro you are
> looking for the detail.

Thanks.  Good point.
 
> There are a lot of good references, and some commercial products, that will
> help make it fun and useful.

Most of the commercial products are 'way too expensive for me at this
point.  Further, few have even looked at a USB interface, and I don't
have much that'll allow me to run a machine with a decent parallel port
or scsi port that far.  
 
> As far as 4l or 4l2 the choice should be 4l2 only because it will offer
> better reliability and control.

Thanks for the tip.
 
> Good luck...
Indeed.

Thanks for the info.  Still looking for anyone else with ideas, too!

Regards,
Gerry
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Gerry Creager -- gerry@xxxxxxxxxxx
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