i have GeForce 2 MX 400 with 64mb ram + tv out. i got myself some non-name card (jaton?) for like $80. works fine. the xfree86 drivers kept crashing but once I switched to nvidia's it works like charm (but they are close source :( ) it works with bttv as well (is this why you asked it on v4l list? -- Adam http://www.eax.com The Supreme Headquarters of the 32 bit registers