> > Just ask them how many business orders they may be losing, and how many folks > > on the other side can't see your website > > Just keep that FUD a'comin, don't bother checking facts or anything. Its not FUD. Its good business practice. If you paid for internet access and your ISP gives you half of the net then its a problem, whether its MAPS BGP sillies or just broken routing. And the starting point is the ISP not this list. But then I've had runins with above.net which seems closely tied to vixie. Like blackholing sites because they were orbs DNS secondaries