Well, I finally managed to connect a BTTV card w/ tuner to a Pinnacle DC 10+. Ahh, the ability to change channels and have hardware compression. It's not that big a deal, I just connected the undocumented pins labled "tv video" to the DC10 with an audio cable. I figured that others would like to make a similar setup, so I have thrown together a little page: http://toonarchive.com/videoout/ --Tom