I finally got everything working *well*; installed the kernel patches, new bttv, etc. etc. Everything looked good for weeks. Then I noticed last night that I no longer have a 'color' control, and xawtv doesn't respond to the "color =" command in the init file. So I recompiled xawtv just for the hell of it... and lost my picture. That was the last I saw of it; 'rmmod' all the modules and reloading didn't help; backing up to 3.41 didn't help. I'm lost. Help! -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Cliff Sharp | Hate spam? Take the Boulder Pledge! | | WA9PDM | http://www.zdnet.com/yil/content/mag/9612/ebert9612.html | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+