Re: USB WebCam Recommendations

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Brian Rozmierski wrote:

> The target application is multicast videoconfrencing so 15 fps
> would be the target, price depending. My Webcam III is running at
> 8fps right now and is tolerable, but not ideal. Either way after
> we hit 10 people with video and audio on the multicast confrence
> fps is going to be semi-moot. :)

See http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/

The Philips 680K (which I have) is pretty decent as far as USB cameras
go.  The only downside is Philips' NDA requirements, so the driver
isn't integrated with the kernel, nor totally open source.

http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/api.html has a framerate vs resolution
table halfway down.

A better table is about hafway down
http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/faq.html

This one shows 'compression' limits.  The 'red' squares are compressed
sizes.  If you're only using qcif, then you're not going to have a
problem.  If you want CIF for your conferencing, then USB isn't the
way to go.


Note however, that CIF images over a bt8*8 capture board are
interlaced, and that you get a 'buzzing' on the image.

Mark

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Jorgensen" <alhaz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Brian Rozmierski wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a decent webcam that can be purchased new nowadays (in the US) that currently is supported in Linux. I don't
> > > need perfect (I have 1 Creative Labs Webcam III that works fine, frame rate is a litle low, but that's ok), just functional.
> >
> > Well, if you want a good frame rate, nothing you can attach to a
> > parallel or usb port will be up to snuff and that's basically all there
> > is to it. USB is a relatively low bandwidth hookup, and bidirectional
> > parallel ports are even worse.
> >
> > If you're looking for frame rate, go get a regular CCD camera with NTSC
> > output and a Bt8x8 based capture card. You can get a card that's
> > basically an 878 and nothing else for $20 at www.computergeeks.com
> > (#include std_disclaimer.h) and OEM version STB DesktopTV cards on eBay
> > for $30 pretty regularly. The geeks also have an outstanding deal on
> > those itty bitty Pixera CCDs. ($32 for a color CCD camera smaller than
> > your thumb, in a handsome black plastic package)
> >
> > If you want to see if some other model is faster, IBM PC Camera Pro's
> > are selling for $60 with a $50 rebate here:
> > https://secure.nac.net/harmony/results2.asp?Manufacturer=IBM+PC+Cameras&MANUFACTURERSEARCH.x=4
> >
> > but i honestly don't think USB will offer you anything you'll be pleased
> > with. Exactly what sort of frame rate were you hoping to acheive?

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Mark Cooke                  The views expressed above are mine and are not
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University Of Birmingham    URL: http://www.sr.bham.ac.uk/~mpc/
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