-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi. I found a very strange behaviour under 2.4.0test5. Building bttv in the kernel didn't help a lot. When I insert the module bttv, with options card=0 pll=0 exactly as I did in 2.2.16, the system waits one or two minutes and after that, the prompt gets back. If I enter 'lsmod', it says that the bttv module is unused, and sadly, if you try to load xawtv, instead of saying "Oh, you don't have /dev/video, sorry.", system freezes completely and you must hard-reset the machine. One interesting thing is that in the delay, modprobe gets all the CPU available. The path to freeze is: root@snuggle:~# insmod bttv card=0 pll=0 Using /lib/modules/2.4.0-test5/misc/bttv.o [after 3 minutes] root@snuggle:~# lsmod Module Size Used by tuner 2948 0 (autoclean) (unused) bttv 52064 0 (unused) root@snuggle:~# xawtv (Some messages detecting the card and...) CRUNCH. I have the output of "strace insmod bttv card=0 pll=0", if you could need it. If I don't run xawtv, but try to remove the modules from the kernel, the messages are these: root@snuggle:~# lsmod Module Size Used by tuner 2948 0 (autoclean) (unused) bttv 52064 0 (unused) root@snuggle:~# rmmod bttv root@snuggle:~# lsmod Module Size Used by tuner 2948 0 (autoclean) (unused) root@snuggle:~# rmmod tuner Segment violation root@snuggle:~# lsmod Module Size Used by tuner 0 0 (deleted) root@snuggle:~# I'm using binutils-2.3.11 on Debian potato. If you try to insmod again the bttv module...well, I can't wait so much time :-(. "strace -p <pid-of-insmod>" doesn't says _anything_, and remains quiet. Stracing this strace gives: wait4(<pid-of-insmod>, and nothing more. I also have the corresponding /var/log/messages entries, and I can send the output of lspci, lspci -n and lspci -v. See you. David. - -- Responsable de News Servicios de red - Network services Centro de Comunicaciones CSIC/RedIris Madrid (Spain) Tlf 91.585.49.05 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQEVAwUBOY8QOG9D1UZOznK9AQGqwQf9Hxyv9RYtG3FWIwN1XQu/J2Qw8Ime2ca6 C9DJ23lryr+IAcED62l4mKVgwg5kFC/F38OMBorzpUuLoNcmJvF0tpZpdXHuqJ2q L3wo5TPPlpO3vNhTTbvKz4Bek0gw6AWjxMGWah4aJCvBqPSTO/LwGXoLpH+zHBKj jsP85OQDfEIFrS96egbaGwMdibdK0fCr8xMGtDDg1i0lh9PL6UHA9o2S8DiQmZQE pezf0AgKnK0o12E+ZP/CDEaXLez33CP4dhmSbeWtFDxeuJJjKpswCvFaM6wgbdaN KabeWXz3a9Pztc4kg4QGjra3+9ERQ08cqVHOsAmXajeSFY5hQls5bg== =YrMy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----