Re: Hauppage WinTV PVR-250/350

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Good Lord Murphy's working overtime.  It's not the timing I would have 
chosen.  Anyway.

On 8 Jan 2003, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

> I have heard second hand that connexant approved creating GPL drivers by
> people who had seen the initial drivers. It would be good to see it in
> writing though.

Can somebody *PLEASE* confirm this.  If this is true, I have code that
will extract an MPEG stream from the 250.  Not the cleanest code in the world,
and as H-P mentioned, MyFirstDriver(tm).  

It does not adhere to either V4L2 or DVB, because V4L2 is in flux and I've
only briefly looked at DVB.  I'm not sure where the better fit is.  I wanted
to get the basics of capturing the MPEG stream down first before I worried
about getting the capture framework correct at the same time.

I think the card *can* do YUV capture, but I haven't explored it.

On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 12:34, Alan Cox wrote:
> > NB: some people recommend *against* looking at those drivers for
> > legal reasons, ...

> Its a common approach - the risk is you might use their code by
> accident. Really you should have two [teams of] people. The first
> documents the functionality of the card (not the driver), the second
> writers a driver to that spec.

This is the model I've been trying to maintain, but without as much separation
as I'd like.  Regardless, the following link contains the fruits of my efforts
to date:  http://www.projectplasma.com/PVR/  Please don't slashdot it ;)

Michael Hieb wrote:

> Obviously I have been a dunce and bought the wrong card.

I wouldn't go that far.  Other than kfir based cards which, other than the
Hauppauge PVR-PCI, are hard to come by, what hardware encoders have a
Linux driver Open or Closed?

Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
> It's a twisty maze of acquisitions, all too similar:
> Conexant bought (GlobeSpan-Virata that bought) iCompression.

Close, GV spun off iCompression.  This acquisition occured in the middle of
2002, so their still getting settled in.

and earlier:
> For all I know the "leaked" ... drivers are put there as a proof of
> concept to lure suckers like me into writing a Linux driver for
> the 350 and 250. :-}

Nice try ;) The leak caused a lot of embarrasment and trouble for the party at
fault.

That said, unless you're trully desparate, I urge people to not pursue those
drivers: it has its own incompatible API and it eats at least four majors
regardless who they're assigned to.  

If you need to get them working, I posted a method in SHS's forums 
http://www.shspvr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1378 (warning: NTSC specific).

Other people have gotten PAL and SVideo working.  I think some people need
help with SECAM.

John (aka PlasmaJohn)





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