Re: [OT] 3dfx.com. nvidia.com unreachable

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"Michael H. Warfield" wrote:
> > > 15  main1-core5-oc12.sjc1.above.net (208.185.175.250)  238.888 ms
> > > 229.529 ms  239.743 ms
> > > 16  209.249.170.20.nvidia.com (209.249.170.20)  249.612 ms  228.921 ms
> > > 239.750 ms
> > > 17  10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2)  239.545 ms  229.588 ms  229.720 ms
> > > 18  * * *
> > > 19  * *
> 
> > Notice the last address: 10.0.0.2 - this isn't blocking, just hopelessly
> > messed up routing tables (10.0.0.0 network is private, you may never see
> > one of those adresses outside of you local network). Once you hit a
> > 10.0.0.0 network outside of a local network, all bets are off...
> 
>         Actually, no.  This is not true.  Private addresses do show up
> on traceroutes quite often.  It indicates a link in the route which is
> using private addresses for internal routing.  You can't address it
> directly but when it returns an error (TTL expired) it indicates the
> address at which the failure occured.  That failure just happen to be
> at one of those private addresses.  You should never see one of those
> private addresses routed to or addressed to outside of your local
> address and boarder gateways SHOULD filter out anything that has a
> source address of a private address space, but, baring "policy routing",
> stock routing does not take the source address into consideration in
> the routing tables.  Lack of filtering?  Maybe...  Debatable.
> Hopelessly messed up routing tables?  Not.

I complained to my ISP about the sites I couldn't access and got a
similar answer, that traceroute and even ping (depending on firewall
setup) don't necessarily determine whether you can actually access the
site. In the case of www.nvidia.com I was unable to access the site for
a couple of days, but I'm now able to access it although I *still* get
the 10.0.0.2 address and subsequent "* * *"'s in the traceroute!

Ben





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